1. Dizzee Rascal doesn’t make grime.
2. Kano thinks working with Damon Albarn
and Kate Nash is edgy and diverse.
3. Lethal B can’t stop milking white people for every last drop of their indie swagger.
4. Parisian designer JCDC thinks grime artists are exciting.
5. The most popular grime DJ in the country makes t-shirts that say ‘grime is dead’.
6. Jammers dreads are slightly too long. Short twists
ala Kele Bloc Party would be far more fetching.
7. No grime artist has ever been shot nine times.
8. Downloading grime mixtapes for free seems like too much fucking effort.
9. Wiley argues with children on the Rewind magazine message board.
10. Everyone likes house,dubstep, niche etc now, anyways.
Pic: Ellis Scott
25 comments:
It doesnt help that grime artists cant get signed to save their lives. Unless they appeal to or milk the indie crowd like Lethal B does.
It also doesnt help that every non-black (see: more marketable) artist milks grimes steeze and DOES get signed.
History repeating itself. Like Drum n Bass and Garage.
In 10 years poor black kids will create another new genre. Everyone will 'love' it, but hardly anyone will get a deal, clubs will get shut down and indie/hipster kids will milk it for everything its worth.
Grimes alive.
As for Niche, everyone knows its Garage
so what if they can't get deals. getting deals means f all these days anyway. it doesn't make you rich and it doesn't necessarily make you famous.
grime artists can still pack up reasonably sized venues and those who love it seriously love it with a passion.
if grime artists never get signed but carry on making inspiring, intelligent and innnovative music then it's no bad thing if they don't get deals (which will suck them dry of any creativity or individuality)
there will always be the lethal bizzles and dizzees of this world but so what? it doesn't matter.
people who talk about grime being dead are the people who know nothing about it such as crappy journalists and music industry fools.
your list is an embarassing joke of pointless non-reasons.
Styleslut i swear you promote grime? or are you just jumping on this hating shit, grime is far from dead its just you never appreciated it...airrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
Jp
u dun know the blog war
JP,
We appreciated it by booking 'The Godfather of Grime' Wiley, Jme, Skepta, Bashy etc for our parties nearly 12 months ago.
We appreciated it by BUYING mixtapes rather than downloading.
We appreciated it by telling national newspapers, global magazines and websites about the best people on the scene.
We're glad that grime still excites you, but its just not as good as it used to be.
Hows that Badness mixtape going for you?
"so what if they can't get deals. "
Depending on the deal it can give the individual artist stability.
It can allow an artist to start his own label and support new artists.
Dont tell me 'deals' didnt help lily allen or amy winehouse.
No 'scene' has any real individuality. No matter how much u wanna pretend.
When people have mouths to feed. Selling out a 'medium sized venue' twice a month means nothing.
How many artists in grime can actually make a living doing that?
Grime will end up just like Drum & Bass, Jungle and Garage.
On the scrapheap and milked dry.
i think what you're spluttering about is entirely pointless and only relates to the grime 'scene' which has little to do with the music.
if you are a true music appreciator or musician you'll probably have little knowledge of the 'scene' but rather be interested and focused on the MUSIC itself (ie, the drum patterns, basslines, sounds, melodies, samples, arangements and lyrics, process of composition etc.). The MUSIC itself has nothing to do with who is playing it, where you can hear it and what people are wearing to it.
but then i suppose, if it wasn't for a scene, you journalists wouldnt have anything to write about seeing as you dont make it and are not musicians. it's as though you're basically punters trying to find a purpose/identity/role in life without having to learn any skills or craft...
to quote the late great frank zappa - "music journalists are people who can't write, interviewing people who can't speak, for the benefit of people who can't read".
http://www.myspace.com/thetenable
the people the music comes from is just as important as the music that comes from them.
Scenes exist
The scene existed before people even dreamed of blogging about it.
Only the 'we are the world' hippies who try to justify liking black music fantasize about a world were scenes, groups and cliques dont exist. Saying shit like 'it doesnt matter who makes the music'
Get the fuck outta here. It does.
yeah, it's just as important, if you're not a musician and you're looking for a group or category to belong to or afilliate yourself with.
but if you get rid of the visual, the music still stands up (eg. on radio). unfortunately this doesn't work the other way round, get rid of the music and all you have is adolescents pouting and posturing.
it's one thing looking like a star and wearing amazing clothes but if you can't DO anything in particular/have no skills/are not creative the what is the point ? you are just a mannequin or a doll with a pull string that says a list of the latest phrases.
if you haven't got a skill or craft, but you're still on the 'scene' then you're basically a wanker (and i dont mean that as an insult but rather in the proper sense and use of the word).
scenesters/hipsters - what is your real purpose apart from seeking pleasure ? what is the point of you ? you look great, i'm sure but what can you actually DO, i ask ?
and if the answer is 'i can comment on what other people do' or 'i can define myself by the things i dont like' then you need a more challenging hobby i reckon.
there is another answer however, have some kids !
when you have children you will not feel the need to chat such baloney cause you will be doing something meaningful and positive.
blessings and guidance.
JP,
We appreciated it by booking 'The Godfather of Grime' Wiley, Jme, Skepta, Bashy etc for our parties nearly 12 months ago.
We appreciated it by BUYING mixtapes rather than downloading.
We appreciated it by telling national newspapers, global magazines and websites about the best people on the scene.
We're glad that grime still excites you, but its just not as good as it used to be.
Hows that Badness mixtape going for you?
JP SPEAKING...
Ok i hear what your saying but why would you say 10 reasons y grime is dead, surely if you USED to be onit you should still be backing the sound and pushing it to better things? i would laugh if i see a blog about you talking about grime in a postiive manor again ....jumping on the NU thing thats hot in WHOREDITCH are you now? grime is still big its just your an indie cat that didnt/doesnt appreciate it ....
and you booked them people because you was on the bandwagon ' the kool nu thing'...lets see who you book at the next STYLESLUT EVENT then lol...
the badness mix cd is alot btw thanks....
hows the klaxons cd? (they do have one or two big tunes though still i aint slewing)
JP,
Jumping on the badwagon?
Whoreditch?
I looked at the flyer for your event and saw 'man like me' 'namalee' and visuals by 'cassette playa'.
You been looking at our flyers from 12 months ago?
Dont you write for Super Super?
ask them about the klaxons CD.
We book, write, masturbate over shit we like, whatever the genre.
Styleslut:
I hear your point...
Soooo your trying to say im jumping on the bandwagon ?
Booking, Man Like Me and Namalee
your funny i never said theres anything wrong with liking other sounds but you are saying the whole grime scene is dead...lol@ looked at your flyers months ago i only remember your event when you booked Skepta same day as me we are NOTHING alike.
Namazonia = Big tune btw
lol i aint war'ing with you i jkust think you should have chosen a title like...
10 reasons why grime isnt the same as it used to be / NOT DEAD
You get me?
I do write for Super Super about uk underground music so that point is invalid.
I said klaxons have couple tune dem wots wrong wwid u man lol...
Jp
Also ...
So you booked Namalee / Cassette Playa / Man Like me? are you trying to say other grime nights jumped on the bandwagon by booking non grime acts??? (quite ridiculous)
as i said b4, nothing wrong with liking other music coz i do, but you get my point ^^^^^^^^^^(about 3 paragraphs worth)
I have always had diversity at my club nights and havent always booked the Baitest grime people possible to book... so really all your points are invalid.
I cant b bothered to write anything more on the subject.
Good Luck With your Styleslut campaign.
Jp
stupid hipsters
getting deals HELPED people like lily allen and amy winehouse???
ummm... are you sure about that?
i can tell you right now those 2 people would be a million times better off (and i don't mean financially) and a millions times better people without the record deals.
the 'music industry' is full of cunts.
Do you think Dubplate Drama is going to get a third series commisioned?
They could have a storyline where Shystie finds out that shes adopted and her real dad is actually some Tony Montana type drug lord from Cuba played by Marcus Nasty.
Peaces Geldof is listed as GRIME, that says it all
"Grime will end up just like Drum & Bass, Jungle and Garage.
On the scrapheap and milked dry."
AIR.
If that is so, then why can you find drum&bass nights running in practically any city in the UK several nights a week? Why are there scenes, albeit not always that big, in countries that Grime has never reached and never will? Aside from Pendulum and occasional bits by Subfocus, dnb recieves basically no mainstream national airplay either.
This is because dnb people can run a scene, they can do business properly, sell records, put on nights, do promotion - whereas Grime MCs are basically only capable of sending for each other and putting out vastly delayed mixCDs with only a few good tracks. It doesn't help that all the raves are locked off except those thrown by hideous neon hipster poser twats in Shoreditch. Yes, that means you wastecats, go and hang yourselves.
I love Grime but it was never going to blow in the UK and it was never going to blow overseas either. I at least expected some kind of vaguely underground scene to survive though. It seems the people involved are incapable of even doing that to any great extent. Massive fail all round.
- Jimmy John Fuckries
D&B is fucking minor. Its not even a blip. Nobody is makin money in that shit.
OMGZ CLUBNIGHTS AND MIXCD'S.
get excited.
I live in the real world where people have families , kids , and need to support themselves.
D&B died, grime will too. Because the UK doesnt believe in black music till white kids do it.
yeah, go and find out how much the top dnb djs make, then go and find out how many dnb cds have sold (e.g. New Forms) then like I said, go and see how many dnb clubnights are on all the time in all the world - and then terminate yourself with extreme prejudice bitch
yeah, and suck your mum til it comes out red as well
dnb has been around a hell of a lot longer than Grime, it will be around when it is fully dead, and it is an example of how you can have a thriving worldwide scene even if you don't "blow" in the mainstream.
I really don't think you have a clue about anything, do you?
how many top dnb dj's can there be? SMH
doesnt matter anyways cause only white kids fuck with dnb now
The 'grime is dead' t-shirts were a pisstake to those idiots that think it is. Therfore...Jokes on you and ur post. Idiot
so what makes you think this can't be 'a pisstake'?
chief.
Most grime tunes sound like they've been knocked up on someones little brothers playstation in half an hour. The music is basic and empty and most of the mc's are scud too. Old jungle made on atari st's with 1mb of ram are better produced, deeper and way more varied. I like new music but i couldn't give a shit about grime and whether is dies or not. Saying that, i would like to hear tinchy stryder ride a proper old jungle beat with lots of amen.
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